Paris 1828 - Paris 1893

Et toujours !! Et jamais !!

Forever!! Never!!

c. 1860



Dimensions (HxWxD): 32 34 x 12 316 x 13 58 in.

Acc. No.: 2008.97

Credit Line: Achat, fonds de la Campagne du Musée 1988-1993 / Purchase, the Museum Campaign 1988-1993 Fund

Photo credit: photo MBAM/MMFA

© Artist : public domain


  • 2008, Purchase, the Museum Campaign 1988-1993 Fund


  • Museum's website (accessed March 5, 2019)

Related works

  • Model exhibited at the 1859 Salon, Paris.


  • Museum's website (accessed March 5, 2019):
    Taught by his father and by the sculptor Feuchère, Hébert pursued an unremarkable career, creating various series of bronze figures and public commissions. One of his more enigmatic works, however, almost made him famous: Forever!! Never!! caused a sensation at the Salon of 1859 in Paris. His model, singled out by all the most influential critics, is the subject of a long review by Baudelaire. Is it a memento mori in the tradition of the Middle Ages, cruel Death carrying a beautiful young woman away to the grave? Is it the kiss of two lovers finally reunited in death? The image remains mysterious, fascinating in the semantic tension between terror and pleasure in the conjoined bodies.